{"id":1326,"date":"2024-11-20T18:41:28","date_gmt":"2024-11-20T18:41:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/?p=1326"},"modified":"2024-12-02T17:29:28","modified_gmt":"2024-12-02T17:29:28","slug":"li-chenyang-does-confucian-ethics-integrate-care-ethics-and-justice-ethics-the-case-of-mencius-varvara","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/2024\/11\/li-chenyang-does-confucian-ethics-integrate-care-ethics-and-justice-ethics-the-case-of-mencius-varvara\/","title":{"rendered":"Mohism and Confucianism: \u2018father and state\u2019, the case of Mencius."},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-pm-slice=\"1 1 []\">Mohism is the third biggest schools of China, following Confucianism and Daoism.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_1_1326\" id=\"identifier_1_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song Jinzhou, Mohist Theoretic System: The Rivalry Theory of Confucianism and Interconnections With the Universal Values and Global Sustainability, in Cultural and Religious Studies, Vol. 8, No. 3, Shanghai (2020), p. 178\">1<\/a><\/sup> The core values of Mohism, in relation to the state, is the \u201cimpartial-treated nation\u201d[jian tian xia], which highlights on the universal love. Confucianism, on the other hand, places the \u201cthe family-governed monarchic nation\u201d [jia tian xia] at its core, highlighting the concept of the differential and preferential love.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_2_1326\" id=\"identifier_2_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 178.\">2<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>A discourse over the relationship between the individual and the state is afoot. Both schools of thought offer different insights. Confucianism focuses on righteousness (yi) and looks down upon benefits (li), finding them polar opposite to one another as values.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_3_1326\" id=\"identifier_3_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 178,\">3<\/a><\/sup> However, Mohism finds both righteousness and benefits to be well-integrated, highlighted together both theoretically and practically.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_4_1326\" id=\"identifier_4_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song, Mohist Theoretic System, pp. 178-179.\">4<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Mohism, likewise, unlike Confucianism, does not stand for the fixed social ladder,or the basic social structure of \u201cking, minster, father and sons\u201d (jun, chen, fu, zi).<sup><a href=\"#footnote_5_1326\" id=\"identifier_5_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 181.\">5<\/a><\/sup> Instead it sees a connection between freedom or autonomy of life in the universal values and individualism of man.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_5_1326\" id=\"identifier_6_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 181.\">5<\/a><\/sup> Confucianism takes the priority of group value rather than the individual value in the social order. Mohism, on the other hand, Mohism takes the priority of individual value rather than group value in the society.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_5_1326\" id=\"identifier_7_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 181.\">5<\/a><\/sup> Confucianism took the priority of the state with a centralized form of power &#8211; in contrast that Mohism took the priority of decentralized power and dispersive small states.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_5_1326\" id=\"identifier_8_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 181.\">5<\/a><\/sup> This is all important to establish in order to understand the respective schools\u2019 thought on state and man as it shows how Confucianism took the priority of nation integrity over the common people, the civilian, which is the complete opposite to Mohism.<\/p>\n<p>Whilst both Confucian and Mohist ethics embraced both universal love, as well as love for one&#8217;s own parents, they differently configured competing values.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_6_1326\" id=\"identifier_9_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Chenyang Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics? The Case of Mencius, in Asian Philosophy, Vol. 18, No. 1, (2008), p. 71.\">6<\/a><\/sup> They disagreed on which degree to which one was more important. Confucians did give love for one\u2019s parents a priority comparatively higher than Mohists do, whilst Mohists gave universal love the priority comparatively higher than Confucians.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_7_1326\" id=\"identifier_10_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics?, pp. 71-72.\">7<\/a><\/sup> And it was due to these different ethical schools having different configurations of values that they presented competing configured perspectives on whether to love the state more than one\u2019s own parents.<\/p>\n<p>Examples of moral values of filial piety and loyalty to the state (i. e. the emperor) although both highly valued in Confucianism, pre-Qin Confucianism would have given filial piety a higher priority than to the loyalty to the state, the emperor.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_8_1326\" id=\"identifier_11_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics?, p. 72.\">8<\/a><\/sup> In the example of Mencius as Chenyang Li\u2019s article provides, Mencius\u2019s student, Xian Qinmeng, raised a significant question. The question regarded the people who in serving the state were \u2018too busy with state affairs to care for their own parents\u2019<sup><a href=\"#footnote_8_1326\" id=\"identifier_12_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics?, p. 72.\">8<\/a><\/sup> &#8211; what should they do? To whom first came filial piety \u2013 the state or own parents? Mencius replied \u2018the sons utmost act of filial piety is to honour his parents; the utmost act of honouring parents lies in supporting his parents with the entire country. Being the emperor\u2019s father is the highest honour; being supported with the entire country is the utmost form of support\u2019. The service to the country was the greatest act of filial piety in his eyes.<sup><a href=\"#footnote_9_1326\" id=\"identifier_13_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-identifier-link\" title=\"Mencius 5A:4\">9<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Bibliography:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Song Jinzhou, Mohist Theoretic System: The Rivalry Theory of Confucianism and Interconnections With the Universal Values and Global Sustainability, in Cultural and Religious Studies, Vol. 8, No. 3, Shanghai (2020)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Chenyang Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics? The Case of Mencius, in Asian Philosophy, Vol. 18, No. 1, (2008).<\/p>\n<ol class=\"footnotes\"><li id=\"footnote_1_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Song Jinzhou, Mohist Theoretic System: The Rivalry Theory of Confucianism and Interconnections With the Universal Values and Global Sustainability, in Cultural and Religious Studies, Vol. 8, No. 3, Shanghai (2020), p. 178<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_1_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_2_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 178.<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_2_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_3_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 178,<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_3_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_4_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Song, Mohist Theoretic System, pp. 178-179.<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_4_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_5_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Song, Mohist Theoretic System, p. 181.<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_5_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_6_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_7_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_8_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_6_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Chenyang Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics? The Case of Mencius, in Asian Philosophy, Vol. 18, No. 1, (2008), p. 71.<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_9_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_7_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics?, pp. 71-72.<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_10_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_8_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Li, Does Confucian Ethics Integrate Care Ethics and Justice Ethics?, p. 72.<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_11_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_12_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><li id=\"footnote_9_1326\" class=\"footnote\">Mencius 5A:4<span class=\"footnote-back-link-wrapper\"> [<a href=\"#identifier_13_1326\" class=\"footnote-link footnote-back-link\">&#8617;<\/a>]<\/span><\/li><\/ol>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mohism is the third biggest schools of China, following Confucianism and Daoism.1 The core values of Mohism, in relation to the state, is the \u201cimpartial-treated nation\u201d[jian tian xia], which highlights on the universal love. Confucianism, on the other hand, places the \u201cthe family-governed monarchic nation\u201d [jia tian xia] at its core, highlighting the concept of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/2024\/11\/li-chenyang-does-confucian-ethics-integrate-care-ethics-and-justice-ethics-the-case-of-mencius-varvara\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Mohism and Confucianism: \u2018father and state\u2019, the case of Mencius.&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":55,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1326","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1326","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/55"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1326"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1326\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1494,"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1326\/revisions\/1494"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1326"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1326"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/transnationalhistory.net\/world\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1326"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}