Comments for Mapping and Visualising Transnational (Hi)Stories http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth Connecting History, Space and Digital Tools Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:47:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 Comment on Read Me First by Georgina Rannard http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/read-me-first-hans-georgina-alex-gero-and-konrad/#comment-31 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 16:47:30 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=258#comment-31 In our discussion, we talked the possibility of forming unconscious assumptions that by nature of using software or datasets, we are making historical analysis more ‘scientific’, or that readers/viewers will assume it is more scientific/accurate – an objective that most historians would hope that the discipline had moved away from.
This is perhaps an area where the ‘newness’ of the practice of visualisation seems very apparent. Can we develop capacities to critically create and analyse maps and images, alongside learning the skills to make them? Would/does the increased energy and resource being devoted to Digital Humanities involve this type of awareness? The authority of maps is a central theme in histories of cartography – do we need to be applying these critiques to our own practices today?

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Comment on Read Me First by Berhard Strück http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/read-me-first-hans-georgina-alex-gero-and-konrad/#comment-30 Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:20:05 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=258#comment-30 Reading some of these questions and comments I am wondering: Do we attribute a different epistemological value to images, maps and visualisations compared to word and narrative? Do we imagine maps and images being “purer” than text? If so, why? We try to build arguments, we teach our students to craft arguments in essays (with words)? Are maps and images not suitable to make a historian’s noble argument?

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Comment on Complex Networks for Complex Historians: Bridging Complexity Sciences and the Humanities by Scott Schorr http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/complex-networks-for-complex-historians-bridging-complexity-sciences-and-the-humanities/#comment-29 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:50:25 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=159#comment-29 Thanks for your comment Alex. I find it very interesting that for an isolated research unit of analysis (tobacco), that analysis from medicine and the natural sciences is included parallel to the historical literature. There are certainly limitations to the interdisciplinary approach, I almost view it as trial-and-error, very in line with the scientific method. I am sure that you could use some of the visualization techniques we are discussing for a large-scale project on the history of tobacco in the future, especially since it is a subject of interest in both Europe and North America (home for me), and multiple other regions. (For example, most American history textbooks from secondary school on have whole chapters on tobacco, but I find it to be very Americentric. The European story would most likely be of interest for a comparative analysis/perspective) I would be happy to give some pointers in the future regarding the visualization side of things, your research is very strong as it is, and I think visualizations should only be viewed as an added bonus. See you at the workshop! Scott

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Comment on M. Erdem Kabadayi by Tom Cunningham http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/m-erdem-kabadayi/#comment-28 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:59:39 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=20#comment-28 *Erdem, sorry.

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Comment on M. Erdem Kabadayi by Tom Cunningham http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/m-erdem-kabadayi/#comment-27 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:59:24 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=20#comment-27 Thanks Erde, I look forward to meeting tonight. We (historians) can surely profit from understanding more about urban and city space and by visualising data from the past in the ways you suggest can help here. I agree that ‘showing’ this information is profitable as it solves questions and raises new ones. In my own research I have read some very useful and interesting material (but rarely visualised) pertaining to the changing shape of Nairobi (and other colonial cities in Africa) the arrangement of which, like your cities, was strongly structured by ethnicity and race. This spatial structuring also, of course, produced those races and ethnicities and I suppose this is the main question I have which also relates to Konrad’s point: Your project necessarily relies (at first) on accepting the categories of the Ottoman tax registers. Is it possible to visualise the qualitative relationship between fluid urban spaces, occupations, and (for example) ‘Jewish-ness’?

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Comment on Anna Ananieva and Rolf Haaser by K. M. Lawson http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/anna-ananieva-and-rolf-haaser/#comment-26 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:16:27 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=32#comment-26 It is wonderful to see the conversation start here on these issues. I think they suggest a really good area of common interest for the discussion on Tuesday morning. In particular, I’d be interested in hear about the challenge, that Tom also hints in at the “qualitative change,” of assessing relationships in networks that offer differ significantly in nature, intensity and influence.

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Comment on M. Erdem Kabadayi by K. M. Lawson http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/m-erdem-kabadayi/#comment-25 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:08:19 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=20#comment-25 Thank you for posting this Erdem, this project will produce some fascinating ways to think about the communities and occupations of communities in the Ottoman cities. It would be great to hear your thoughts on whether the sources (the 19th century Ottoman tax registers and the early 20th century censuses) may conceal even more complexity as residents represent themselves for the use of tax or census records, or those assembling the information.

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Comment on Georgina Rannard ‘Trade, Knowledge, and Fluid Spaces in Atlantic Empires, 1660-1720′ by Berhard Strück http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/georgina-rannard-trade-knowledge-and-fluid-spaces-in-atlantic-empires-1660-1720/#comment-24 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 14:50:26 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=166#comment-24 I have read your contributions with great interest, Georgina. Thanks a lot for sharing this. While different in scope and time from my own research (broadly speaking late-modern Europe, travel, networks, cartography and the representation of space), many of your questions and concerns resonate with my interests and my, admittedly still vague, ideas around the centrality of space in transnational and global history. What I read in (or into) your project and proposal also seems to connect nicely with other projects for the workshop as, for example, Tom and Alexander – but also others.

Here are some ideas that your contribution triggered and that I would like to pick up on during the workshop:

1) Following your comment on “how information changed with movement and use” in space. Both space and time matter for us as historians. But looking at our discipline we are so imbued and used to writing our stories along chronological dynamics and change that spatial aspects, spatial dynamics and the impact of space and location (of knowledge in your case) are (relatively) neglected. The importance of bringing space in, is of course not new. Pointing at David Livingstone or Michel de Certeau on the importance of location and institution for scientific knowledge and the historiographical operation respectively may suffice here. But how to bring space in? Giving a preference to space rather than time and chronology, what would the consequences be for the way we write our (hi)stories?

To some extent comparative history does bring in a more complex spatial setting (more complex compared to a perhaps more traditional, singly country, single location study). At least in a sense that a comparative framework acknowledges not only difference and change over time but across space (most often practiced along the nation-state, at least the kind of comparative studies I am aware of). However, comparative history (alone) cannot be the solution to your research and that of our group – that is me saying as someone who sees more merits than disadvantages in comparative history. For good or bad reasons comparative history has been accused of a) pre-selecting space and entities and giving preference to the nation-state, b) it is thus not dealing with spatial interactions such as cross-border flows, c) it is “freezing its objects in time” as being essentially a-historical operation, i.e. choosing the objects to compare (across space: say social formations in different national cases) and freezing these in moment A in time, in order to compare them or make them comparable. Where does this leave us: Do we either have to give preference to space (as comparison does, to some extent) OR give preference to time and chronology? How to combine both? Combining both in your project or ours (here again I would point towards Alexander or Tom) the combination of both strikes me as crucial in order to enhance our histories on objects such as knowledge, commodities such as tobacco (Alex) or individuals (missionaries, Tom). If we do find ways of bringing space into these research topics or even give preference to location and space, what would the consequences be for our writing?

You also raise the concern of maps and mapping, as you are partly working with historical maps and are looking for ways to make your “21st century map” of your knowledge(s), flows and connections. As fun and fascinating as historical maps are, the crucial question of the workshop will be what and how to map our analysis and histories that essentially focus on dynamic process across spaces. Simple single (sheet) maps tend towards evoking a sense of fixed, static space. There are of course great examples how to get beyond the single map, as the Republic of Letters project at Stanford, that demonstrates the spatial dynamics of Enlightenment Europe along correspondence and exchange. But then it stops where your question comes in: the effect that place and location have on knowledge and how information changes with movement and use in different locations.

This brings me to a last point, your ideas or questions on whether or not we should adopt a sense of multiple spaces – in the plural rather than the singular use of one space, most often in history a territorially defined space by boundaries or a historical region defined by certain structures (social, geographical). Rather than writing histories in pre-defined territorial spaces, or absolute physical space, I see the potential in both transnational and global history with their emphasis on people, objects and commodities and these interact across space and (with a loose reference to Henri Lefebvre’s “espace vécu”) create spaces through these interactions, flows and connections. But yes, it remains a challenge how to bring this in: in terms of mapping, visualising and, eventually, writing.

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Comment on Hans Blomme, Nico Randeraad, and Christophe Verbruggen by Gero Tögl http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/hans-blomme-nico-randeraad-and-christophe-verbruggen/#comment-23 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 09:26:50 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=184#comment-23 Dear Hans, Nico, and Christophe,

Your proposal resonates very well with a couple of issues, our own mapping projects within Global Theatre Histories is dealing with. Besides the Wagner project Tobias and I are going to present at the workshop, we are also working on a database and visualization of the expansion of Western purpose-built theatre venues throughout Europe and, more specifically, the colonial world between 1860 and 1950. With this, we would like to show the expansion of theatre as a modern institution and lay a fundament for further research on touring theatre, opera, and vaudeville troupes. In order to be able to collect the necessary data for this, we are also in close contacts with similar mapping and database projects, especially Ausstage (https://www.ausstage.edu.au/pages/browse/), IbsenStage (https://ibsenstage.hf.uio.no/), the Digital Innovation Group of the University of North Carolina and their DH Press project, whose students have prepared a trial with some of our data (http://dhpress.org/), and Doug Reside, digital curator of the NYPL (http://www.nypl.org/online_projects). Quite naturally, data exchange and compatability of different databases has become an important issue for us and Tobias will certainly be happy to discuss our plans and experiences from a technological point of view with you and the others.

Richard Wagner and the huge European and American Wagner movement are certainly also a very interesting example for intellectual networks in the arts. Journals, the Bayreuth Festival as an (almost) annual meeting, touring productions, as well as the infamous Wagner Societies have been important structural elements in the distribution of Wagnerian works and ideas and their linking to wider social movements of artistic and cultural reform. It touches almost the dame time frame as your project (1848-1933) and bears a lot of structural similarities. However, as a “Grenzgänger” phenomenon between arts, politics, and culture, Wagnerians of various generations also develop ideas and controvercies and similar topics within modern discourse.

So, thank you very much for your contribution! I am very much looking forward to meeting you in St Andrews and am sure that we will have a lot of valuable insights and ideas to discuss!

All the best from Munich,
Gero

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Comment on Uta Hinrichs, Trading Consequences by Georgina Rannard http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/uta-hinrichs-trading-consequences/#comment-22 Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:39:25 +0000 http://transnationalhistory.net/mvth/?p=102#comment-22 Hi Uta,
This is an amazing resource, I’m so pleased I have been introduced to it. I’ve already told at least five people about it today!
Just a quick question – I was wondering if you could point to any examples of work that have come directly from the database? Ie. any articles or projects that have been based (even partly) on using the database to answer historical questions? If you had time to point to any, it would be interesting to see how the materials have been used.
Looking forward to hearing more about it on Monday,
Georgina

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